Exhibit 337: Interview Room - Part 1

Exhibit 337 Part 1: Interview Room - 1/29/2020

Pre-Interview

Bethel pats her down and searches her bag to begin the interview and then leaves for a few minutes.
Letecia takes off her jacket, looks through her bag, and sits on the couch
The video just shows her sitting on the couch and moving around; she picks up the remote (this is a family interrogation room with couches and a tv) and puts it down, crosses her arms, taps her foot.
Bethel comes in, asks how she is and if she got some sleep.
She also offers her food - pizza Hot Pockets, tamales, breakfast burrito. Letecia asks for a Hot Pocket but says “you don’t have to like -” she is assured it’s fine.
She is offered Coke, Sprite, and apple juice. She asks for diet but there is no diet so she says regular coke. She thanks her.

Background

Bethel explains who her partner is and asks her where she parked.
Letecia is parked in the parking garage behind the building. Bethel says she needs to validate her parking and put type of vehicle on the validation slip.
Bethel says she’s gonna go over her normal spiel; she is in there voluntarily, she can leave, she just has to let her know she wants to leave so she can escort her out of the building; if she needs a break, bathroom, water, food, whatever just let her know.
Letecia understands it’s recording, says it’s fine, but she is asking if this stays within the court because she has to tell her intimate personal details.
Bethel says it’s not their common practice to release this footage.

Miranda Warning & Admin

Bethel goes over a miranda waiver and explains it doesn’t mean she is in trouble, “it’s just because you’re in a police station and I want you to be absolutely certain of your rights.” Bethel explains in court that this is another admin thing she does to cover her own butt.
Bethel tells her she has the right to remain silent; anything she say can and will be used against her in a court of law; has the right to talk to a lawyer and have them present; if she can’t afford a lawyer, one will be appointed before any questioning; you can decide at any time to not make a statement or answer a question.
Letecia sounds a bit annoyed as she says OK. She understands these rights, she circles “yes” and initials on the waiver.
Bethel asks for Letecia’s ID and compliments her glasses. Letecia says the brand and says they’re better than the Michael Kohrs and all that.

About Letecia

Letecia says she doesn’t like her first name, she pronounces it “Tesha”. She said she tried to change it and her mom didn’t like it; says they can call her Tecia.
Her Instagram was Dr. Stauch - Bethel says, “doctor whaaaat?”
Letecia says she has her doctorate in education.

Career Change

Says she was working with Western District 3 but she didn’t want to be a teacher anymore. She thought she was gonna be a flight attendant and has been going back and forth with Spirit.
She talks about the FAA study guide.
She likes to travel. Her goal is to teach online and be a flight attendant so she can do both.
She was supposed to be training and in the meantime she was a substitute at a college.
She was “just a 5th grade teacher at French” Elementary.
She says something has gotten so difficult in the elementary schools that she doesn’t want to do it anymore and she is kind of in between. She just finished working with them.
Her doctorate is in special education.
She says you try to help so many people and it’s just hard.
She got an offer letter from Spirit and another from Sky West.
She was gonna take the Spirit job and then she wouldn’t be based anywhere nearby so she would have to go to Las Vegas so she would never get to see anybody at home.
The detectives told her about someone they spoke to who wanted to be a nurse and ended up being a flight attendant but that it sounded scary. Letecia says she did get afraid of being in Vegas and traveling alone.
Southwest is the best company to work for and hard to get into.
One of the detectives nieces is a flight attendant on Southwest. She says the training is intense and you have to respond to emergencies in the air.
Letecia says the training is intense and if you’re even one minute late to class you’re kicked out.
Spirit flew her for training in December but she didn’t have anyone to watch Harley because Al was working night shifts.
She says it’s hard because it’s always on her to find a babysitter for all of the kids. She says Harley is very mature but not ready.
They moved Letecia to the next class in February due to the babysitting issue.
Letecia did fly out but she came back because she was panicking about Harley and the dogs. “She’s your baby” says one detective, sympathetically.
Letecia says Al doesn’t go by Eugene because that was his dad’s name and he was a child molester who sexually assaulted his sister. Al freaks out about the word Eugene. She says if you don’t have to call him Eugene it would probably be helpful.

The Timeline: Sunday

Sunday they went hiking at Garden of the Gods. She took pictures.
They were going to go walk the dogs but didn’t because Harley got called into work.
One kid likes to hike a lot the other doesn’t.
She said they had to burn calories.
They had to cut the hike “a little bit short” because Gannon pooped his pants but she said it was ok.
It was kind of cold for her but she is used to 80 degrees - they decided to go home.
She doesn’t remember what they did the rest of the day.
She “felt like” they got dinner. Actually, they didn’t get dinner because he wanted to take a bath.
Gannon asked for bath salts. Letecia gave him a bath bomb since he had pooped in his pants.
They did normal random stuff the rest of the night around the house. It was Sunday but there was no football on.
She doesn’t know every little detail just a normal everyday situation because he was in a lot of pain because he suffers from constipation. She asks to make a graphic hand motion showing the size of what he has to pass sometimes.
He takes Vyvanse. He has gone the whole time without Vyvanse.
It gets to where his stomach wants to work but can’t. He spends a lot of time in the bathroom hurting.

Fire (The Candle Indicident)

She talks about the new little dogs, a frenchie and an english bulldog. Sadie the Frenchie is high maintenance. The kids help out a lot with them but Gannon wasn’t feeling well. The dogs could tell and were laying “down there” and it was “gassy” so Gannon had started a candle.
Again, it was a normal day. He’s very responsible in terms of if you tell him to do a list of things. It’s fine so they let him do things like that.
Al lets him use a box cutter to cut the boxes down and teach him things to be an independent growing up adolescent so “I didn’t see any problem with him starting a candle” “whatever whatever whatever”.
Letecia was tired. They had stayed up most of the night before because she and Al were going to miss each other.
She dozed off and Laina asked her if she could finish what she was watching on the iPad.
Letecia usually says no but she felt bad because it was just her birthday and they had a lot going on. They did make it about her but not everyone could make it there so she tried to give her a bit extra.
They went all out for Gannon’s birthday. They took him and friends to a Rockies game with hot dogs and popcorn. They did not do that with her. They bought her a Switch but she didn’t understand that so she let her stay up a bit late.
Laina is a hard sleeper and hard to pick up and move if she falls asleep. When Letecia went in there she was just barely asleep. A beeping started. Letecia thought someone was coming in the house.
She didn’t see anyone at the doors so she put in the code but it wouldn’t turn off. She walked to Laina’s room because the alarm is in her room and she walked through the top part of the house and didn’t see anything going on.
The alarm started saying FIRE FIRE FIRE FIRE FIRE FIRE.
There are sensors for the fire alarm and sensors for your alarm alarm. “I was going to everything. I was thinking kitchen fire nothing’s wrong. I was putting towels over some of the sensors because I thought it was like monitoring the fire thing or whatever. Then I realized it kept going and going and I realized I see smoke coming up from the downstairs.”
“I run downstairs and - my idea of a big fire is anything that I [inaudible] and there’s smoke. She says she’s from the country and talks about bonfires.
Smoke was coming up from the basement so she ran back up the stairs and grabbed Laina. Luckily she woke right up. Letecia gave her keys to car, had her take the dogs to the truck and sit and wait. She can’t remember if she checked to see if they were in the truck of if Laina did it but she knew they were in the truck.
She ran back down to get Gannon because she didn’t know how to get everyone out at once.
The fire was on the floor by the sofa. There were a lot of blankets there so she went and “smashed down on the sofa and the fire” to put it out. She got a burn. Gannon woke up and realized what happened. The covers were on fire, the carpet was on fire and they all go outside. “We get in Albert’s truck and we drive.”
“I drove off in panic because I saw that I put the fire out, what do I do now? We burnt the carpet.” Gannon’s upset and afraid he is gonna get in trouble.
They drove “maybe around the block a little bit and came right back”.
“We were gonna make a plan to fix the carpet next day and not say anything”. She says Albert freaks out about every little thing, “like if the kids do something and she’s on her (?) Al says she isn’t being a good stepmom.” They were both worried about it. She says he gets very crazy if something goes wrong.
The plan was to go to sleep, rest, and he was gonna stay out of school and then go from there.
Laina didn’t want to sleep in her room. Everyone was still kind of frazzled.
“Laina slept with me or on the sofa and she brought the dogs up and Gannon wanted to go in his room at that point because he was already sleeping.”
Letecia sent Al messages but he didn’t see them because he was in a different time zone.
She knew no one had been harmed. Gannon had black marks all on his shirt like smoke marks but he had on a long sleeved shirt and a short sleeved shirt.
“I didn’t see him in any kind of like nothing other than the little burns he had.”
Detective asks where did you see burns on Gannon? Letecia grabs the collar of her shirt and says “right here there was a burn and the reason for that was I think when he was trying to come up it kind of burned him a little bit”.
She says he ran out the house and everything was normal “yadda yadda yadda”.
“Now I’m gonna let you know in a little bit why he was bleeding” she says.
Detective says, “describe the flames for me.” Letecia sighs and says “I really don’t know”.
It was centralized on the floor. The smoke might have intimidated her more because she spent the whole night coughing. the visibility was starting to be a little bit like as if she had walked into a small little fire. The upholstery for the couch was her biggest concern.
Detective estimates the flames were 2 or 3 feet high. Letecia says she doesn't know. She doesn’t know how much light she saw through the smoke. She isn’t a professional and was in the moment of freaking out, She says she doesn’t want to say when she doesn’t know.
She saw “covers” coming up on fire. He was sleeping on the sofa, he had a cover.
She stalls a LOT when asked which blanket he has. “I’m not sure, there was a couple, they were black, I put them all back in that bin that was sitting there - it was black and furry, there’s a watermelon, we always leaves blankets out there’s a mermaid one.” She also says “during the operation(?) I grabbed them all”. “I left them all there when I showed them that night they were damaged”.

Staying Home From School

It was a combination of things. Gannon was having stomach issues but was also going to help her with the carpet.
Letecia asked Al if he could stay home because he was hurting with his stomach, but also the whole plan was that we were gonna figure it out. Letecia did not contact the school to excuse him. She’s unsure they have an automated system that calls about absences.
Harley only had a few weeks of work left.
On Monday, they woke up; andGannon stayed in bed. He knew they were going out and about. That was the plan.
Gannon usually walks Laina out but today Letecia walked her to the front door and around to make sure she saw her go around the corner to the bus stop.
Letecia was on her phone in bed for a bit after 6:50, 6:55.
She told Gannon “this is the plan, go downstairs, and I realize that Gannon had marks on his arm and they were like peeling at that point and I didn’t, I swear I did not realize that they had, I don’t know if they started peeling overnight or like whatever but he had like really bad anxiety so whenever things are peeling or - he bites his own nails a lot anything, anything that’s loose.”
“I’m not giving you a location, I’m just saying burns on your skin. You know how burns on your arm get a little bit peeling or stretchy.”
“I didn’t know his arms were like that, I started crying, and this is where I have to start telling you - I was scared, my thought process was Albert was going to kill me because I made a mistake a parent and I didn’t check him down and he really got more burned than he should of.”
“I was freaking out.” “Gannon was like it’s okay. He had on his arm and as it was peeling and” – (she’s crying) – “I should have called the hospital and just asked you know. I don’t know enough about burns but I should of called the hospital and just asked. I made a mistake. I swear to y’all I didn’t know they were that bad. I feel horrible.”
“Here I am, you know I know it’s not about me, but as a person I was feeling horrible. I didn’t call Albert. I told him we were gonna put aloe on his arms and it’s gonna be ok .” All she could think of was “we’re gonna fix it” but she didn’t know how.
He wasn’t in pain. He wasn’t saying I’m hurting or anything. He was peeling it. It was like he was pulling a blister.
There was blood. “So I’m holding him and there’s blood on me. I don’t mean dripping out pouring everywhere blood.” She said don’t worry about it, we’ll figure it out.
The blood was on his arms on the sheet he had. “We washed the sheet. He had some on his arm from sleeping and on the wall. We cleaned up everything. I put a new garnish, the wrap thing, I said we’ll check it with the aloe and see if it gets better.”
She was gonna assess the situation. She did look online and if it turns yellow it could be infection. She was going to wait a few hours and look again.
She knew she needed to fix the carpet and then was going to assess if Gannon needed burn cream.
She says they left “around 10:35 or whatever” and that “this is where she should have made this mistake”.

Running Errands

At the end of Lorson Ranch is a bunch of new builds, construction, things like that. She drove to the new build to ask someone to fix it because if he gets online and calls people they’d need an appointment. She was looking for someone who would do a side job and fix the carpet in the living room.
There were some Hispanic people working at the new builds. She asked them where she could get the carpet that was in the Lorson Ranch home models. They got a roll of the carpet from the guy “on the scene”(?) at the construction area; no, she didn’t get it, she gave him the address and the garage code to get in and he was going to bring the carpet.
She assumed working in the house he was gonna be ok, so she and Gannon left.
There’s no sensor from the garage to the house. You can walk in from the garage and the alarm would never go off, ever.
The kids come in every day through the garage and she never has to reset anything.

Petco

She was looking for different places to get some cute dog outfits so she went to Petco for their deals.
Gannon wanted to lay down because his stomach hurt. Hhe wasn’t complaining about any pain on his arms he just wanted to lay down.
They were in Al’s truck. “We laid down, I mean he lays down in the back of the truck”.
She can’t remember where all she went other than Petco, a gas station to get gas, and she made a wrong exit and had to go back north and turned around to come back. She gets back and she can’t remember if they went to eat but she feels like she didn’t get anything and just got Starbucks. She can look at her credit card to find out for sure.
She realized she had to go to Petco, that’s why she had to turn around and go back. She had to get more outfits for the same price. “I did go back to Petco twice”. It’s about a 30 minute drive from the house to the Petco.
Talking about being tracked by phones and Life360. She has it with Harley because he father was killed and she’s all she has.
She is trying to load the app. A detective says she can try from where she is an see if there’s better reception. Letecia gives her phone but it turns off. The detective asks if there’s a password or something she can put in. Letecia says she will use her finger because if “people watching” see her PIN they will know the code to a lot of things.
She’s had the app a long time. The phone loads and says “purchase cannot be completed”. Letecia is confused and doesn’t know what happened, she wasn’t trying to buy anything.
She parked in the front of Petco and was in the store a lot of times walking back to the front and making sure Gannon didn’t need anything or didn’t get out of the car or whatever.
She doesn’t remember the gas station or even the brand of station.
She is trying to load Life360 again. Detective Bethel steps out for a moment. Detective Houston(?) continues.
She says “everyone has been about camera footage and we did see this or didn’t see this”.
“My whole family is being harassed. My mom is being threatened to be killed, my daughter is being stalked. That’s why it took me a while to get here. I had to put safety measures for her own well-being. My family back home is being threatened and people are saying they’re sending someone after them. “
She didn’t respond to any of the messages. There was something about someone checked the neighbors 2 doors down camera footage and never saw anyone do this or do that or something.

Coming Home

“You will see Gannon and I go to the car at 10 something that morning and come back at 2 something. I pulled it right in front of the Ring but we don’t have a subscription. If the neighbors can see all the way to the truck every day, you should be able to see we run in, we run out, he runs back in or whatever.”
They always go in through the garage if they park in the front part of the yard.
Gannon goes in through the garage, she goes in, she’s getting ready to put up the thing, stuff like that.
[inaudible] I made a mistake [inaudible].
When they got back she heard a noise but didn’t think much of it. A guy was in there. She gave him the code. She cries.
It’s all my fault, I gave him the code to fix the carpet (inaudible).
“He was inside, I noticed when I walked in and saw our little bookshelf. I keep my shades in there too but we also have our guns and stuff. It was open but I thought maybe I left my shades or whatever.”

An Attack

She walked downstairs. She didn’t walk downstairs with a gun or anything like that.
She heard something again. Gannon was on the sofa. She heard something again and kept walking and opened the storage closet and the man was standing in there. He was wearing gloves. She is crying.
(inaudible) on the ground, he was trying to rape me (inaudible). I said I have to tell you about this (inaudible) was a blur. I was trying so hard because Gannon had a table and I went back and hit my head on it. He had run inside the room and tried to be helpful and do something whatever and from there it was kind of like a blur.
I was just like crying and freaking out and I swear to God I don’t know what happened. I really don’t know (inaudible) I don’t (inaudible) I don’t –
The thing was open, he had the gun. I didn’t remember what happened there. I kind of blacked out just a little bit, all these things are going through my mind as I’m blacked out.
When Gannon was trying to get on him he was moving Gannon and was all like a cycle(?) to me. I’m out of it for a little bit, just for a little bit and then from when I woke up, I say woke up but I kind of blacked out a little bit. I immediately freaked out.
She couldn’t find Gannon, the guy was still in the house, Laina was on the way. She didn’t know where Gannon was.
She was calling for Gannon and thought he was hiding, maybe in the other closet. She ran up the stairs because she knew it was almost Laina and heard the Ring alert for someone at the front door but no one was at the front door.
She ran back downstairs looking for Gannon. She didn’t want to leave and run and go crazy because she didn’t know where he was at the time. Everyone says to her why didn’t do run and and go get help. She didn’t want to leave to go get help. She was terrified. She knew Al would kill her because Gannon was still in there.
She went downstairs and the man was there with a gun and had Gannon and she was sitting there like freaking out like (inaudible) blah blah blah.
Laina did make it through the door at this time. She went up stairs. The man was like don’t say anything. “I don’t know if he thought I was a cop or if someone heard something, so I was like if I say Gannon’s down here I need to just be as cool as possible act like, we order things from Amazon all the time…” It was Laina.
“The reason I sent Laina away was because I wanted her to be safe too, so I sent her on a mission to get mail. Laina never gets the mail, nothing like that. I sent her on a mission to go get the mail. I started making up things for Laina to do. I told her just stay gone for a little while.”
If I say anything or do anything I just didn’t know what to do I was in complete panic. I go back downstairs and I’m pleading and talking and (inaudible) back and forth with him like why are you doing this, why did you hurt us, why are you doing these things and then it started being like a (inaudible) back and forth. I don’t even remember how it kept going for I think maybe 5 or 10 minutes and then he was on top of me again and I kind of blacked out again ‘cause he hit my head again on the table - the red and blue table in there. He forced me in there again and he was trying to do it again and I was just losing my mind like completely like Albert (inaudible). Albert’s sister was raped and so in my mind I kept thinking Albert’s gonna be like I’m nothing and I should’ve have been thinking about that but I was and that was all I could keep thinking about was that Albert would be upset. Gannon’s over here, Laina’s coming, all those emotions are running through there.
He asked me to give him a suitcase and I gave him a brown suitcase and he hit me on the head again and kept hitting me right there like that and so then he did that and then I blacked out again. I’ve been having panic attacks.

Gannon’s Disappearance

I don’t know what happened from there. I really don’t. I just know that I did lie. I did. When they came I did say Gannon left whatever you know that. She is crying. But he never did, he never left; I just didn’t know what to do and I panicked in the moment. I didn’t want Albert to (inaudible) hurt us (inaudible).
That’s the only reason I made up the lie. I didn’t want to face the consequences of trying to explain to him all that was going on cause he was saying to me you’re trying to make this about you. This is not about you, and I knew all those things ‘cause I’ve lived in it. So I panicked and I told a story and I was gonna try to think of like a plan and I’m sorry that it might have delayed, you know, looking for Gannon but I do not know where Gannon was. I do not know. I do not know his whereabouts from that point on but it’s still in the timeframe that I gave you guys. It had to be around 4 because Harley gets off at 4:30.
Harley had just gotten home. No, she was on her way home or something - and my phone was like alerting. I knew Harley was on her way home and I was gonna tell Harley when she got there, like “look, this is what happened, we need to get help, we need to call 911” and all I kept thinking about was it’s gonna be my fault because I gave them, I gave him, the code.
He brought the carpet. He did all that. I had already cut it. He brought the big roll. It’s at the house. It’s in the back storage room.
After about 4 PM, Laina was still out and about. Harley was home, comes home or whatever.
I’m pacing the house like trying to think of a plan of like what do I do and I should’ve like immediately like gotten on the phone, did whatever, but all I kept thinking about was it’s all my fault. It’s all my fault because Albert’s gonna say to me ‘you gave some stranger access to our home, this is all on you’ and in my mind I thought I could fix it. I don’t know why I thought that, it was horrible decision making.
In normal situations people can say all they want what they would do but if you’re not in a situation, everybody handles things different and I was making an irrational decision in a panic situation when I should have immediately - being an educator, being all these things it should’ve been an immediately know how to answer. This girl is gonna be a flight attendant, she’s gotta be able to think fast - it was not that easy in the moment, my mind was in so many directions. I literally thought I was gonna fix it.
I was gonna tell Harley. I didn’t. I paced around the situation and was thinking okay if I don’t have any kind of information or plan in my brain at a certain time I will call authorities.
She didn’t think of a specific time, she just knew she had to act soon. She’s thinking by 6, 6:30 she needs to make a good decision ‘cause what is she gonna tell the girls. They were gonna wonder where Gannon was ‘cause they were gonna go eat sushi.

Searching for Gannon

What am I supposed to do get in the car and be like Gannon’s not going with us? I had to make a decision so I called 911. They said to call the emergency line. She called the other line and it was a four hour wait for them to get to the home.
4 hours later she is still panicked.
Nothing I say is going to solve this situation so I did say that Gannon left at this time. Again, I’ve admitted it’s a very irrational decision and it could’ve been more helpful to be honest and give the description of who we’re looking for. That was horrible, I shouldn’t have done that because I panicked.
They came through, asked her questions, searched the house - every room, flashlights, whatever whatever whatever they went outside, the garage, they searched her car, blah blah blah blah.
Harley was there when they did the searches; it took 4 hours so it was like later at night.
They searched her Tiguan.
She put everything back in order. She fixed the situation because she was in panic.
She should’ve told them what really happened.
The officers went through everything, went through the outside, went through the car and went through the trunk. They left the back door of her car open it was still open the next morning.
There was nothing missing. She did take the gun that he had and put the gun back.
She never gave anyone a name at all.
She was upstairs with her headphones on when it all started and she still had her headphones on during the whole thing.
That’s why if you say did you hear any noises, did you hear anyone leaving, did you hear the alarm back on, I still had my headphones on.
Detective: When you walked inside the house?
Letecia: Yes, I had my headphones on when I was coming in the house - not, not when I was coming in the house, when I went downstairs.
She was gonna listen to music and work out.
She has Beats Audio over the head headphones. She was moving them when she thought she heard something.
She thinks they’re noise canceling; they have two pairs of headphones different kinds. They’re a matte gold. Al’s are black and red. Detective is wondering if intruder touched the headphones.
On Monday she went out to her car because she knew Albert was gonna fly in.
She did her normal routine and got in her car and realized the guy had left the back door open so thought her car might not crank. She drove out, down the street because she was gonna drive her car to pick him up but it was too early.
His flight wasn’t coming in until 8:30.
She took her black car but she had already sent him a message earlier asking if they could get a rental car and Al said yes because she has a lease. You can only put 1,000 miles on it; she’s anal about not going over it.
Al’s car is very expensive on gas so she got a little economy car because she knew they’d be driving around everywhere searching. In her mind she was freaking out because she had- (inaudible) because our clothes and out home, I knew we were gonna drive everywhere all day so I was gonna get a rental car; so I did. So I got my rental car and I left my black car at the airport ‘cause I had to have a way, I didn’t walk…
Al asked where her car was and she lied and said it was at French because they get in a lot of fights(?) about this working and changing career thing and it was a personal situation, she didn’t wanna fuss with him about the working and changing “you’re gonna give up your career for this, this, and this“ so she said it was at French and one of her friends brought her
She wanted it to go with a story because she wasn’t ready to tell him she wasn’t returning at all to education. He knows she’s been applying to be a flight attendant and going back and forth on it.
Going from making 60 grand to 18 - 20 dollars an hour but you can only do so many things so I’m back and forth on something I really wanna do and the money.
Al’s flight landed at 8:50. She saw him getting off the escalator. She went to Budget and got a rental car. She parked in the short term parking middle way maybe.
She took the rental car back last night because she didn’t know what time, the situation.
It could’ve been a quicker search or whatever but she thought she was gonna have to stay at a hotel so Harley picked her up because she was gonna get a hotel room.
She drove the rental car back, got in the Tiguan, and left. She didn’t have anywhere to go because they’re fussing at her.
She left her car at the hotel near Harley’s work.
Albert asked if they were coming and she said they were on their way.
She left her car at the hotel the entire night and then left in Harley’s car and stayed at home tonight, I mean last night, and then I come back where Harley (inaudible) and she walked to the hotel.
She parked her car because she was going to get a hotel room but she didn’t.
His wife was there, there was a domestic type situation me myself against her family so my plan was to come back to the hotel and stay if we had to.
It was the IHG Holiday Inn in Center Point.
Letecia says the cops were there. She assumed they were there because she was.
She picked the car back up that morning. She was driving around on the phone trying to figure out situations for her family due to the threats.
Her mom was really worried and didn’t understand why people made death threats.
She told her mom not to respond to anything people say.
(inaudible)
Detective asks how it got so big on social media and how there were so many searches. Al and Landen started it on community pages.
Letecia needs to use the restroom in the interview.
She almost takes her hot pocket and makes sure she doesn’t leave anything. She is taking tissues and it looks like even some notes with her.
Detective says they have a good overview but wants to try and get more specific.
Letecia says she doesn’t remember where his arms were burned, then says the inner forearms but not like “round”(?) burns, and not really burns, more like skin peeling.
It was both arms. When she came in she took the covers and got on top of both of - on him and the fire to get the fire out and he was hanging off the side of the couch.
He was saying her name, he was alert, he had just woken up, not a full conversation but calling her name and saying he was sorry and he didn’t mean to do it and he was gonna be grounded for a year.
The next day she needs to fix the carpet.
Al has woodworking tools. She doesn’t know the name of them but she used a little saw thing and cut the carpet. They’re very sharp tools.
She tried with a box cutter but it wasn’t deep enough.
She tried a couple times with a box cutter but she needed to get a stronger object to do it.
Detective tries to get Letecia to give the location that she found the carpet guy at.
She keeps saying she doesn’t want to be quoted on a distance or number of houses because if she’s wrong that’s not fair to her.
She gives the name Eguardo or Eduardo (I believe for the first time). 5 foot 8, really skinny, wearing a tool belt, a cold weather vest, maybe red; blue jeans, combat work boots; she assumes it was somebody who, he looked like a legit worker. There were people on the houses and working in different areas.
They never had a conversation about price.
She said she would give a small donation. She based it in her own mind on work Harley’s dad had done.
She left $50 on the counter and she told him they had cameras.
She wanted it to be a package deal. She didn’t just want the carpet she wanted him to fix it; more like can you hook me up.
Harley’s dad always told her not to pay a contractor but to find someone who wants to work after hours.
They are renting the house.
He had a “brown strap thing”(?) around his hair, it was not long, dark hair. His face shape was chubbier than hers; craters, acne scars; he had a mustache; easily late 30s early 40s.
She wishes she was good at drawing so she could show the man’s distinct face.
She says she had been playing the lottery and had cash and she already had it out on the counter because she was gonna give it to Harley because Harley has been financing on the dogs and has a car payment they help her with. She left her $100; it was gone when she got back.
She uses Zelle (Zellie).
She didn’t have her card though so she used the money she had been stashing to buy new lottery tickets.
It’s always $10s because she won’t ever play more than $10. If you put more than $10 in the machine they’re gonna keep it.
$100 in $10 bills on the counter when she left. She didn’t intentionally leave it as if to say whatever; she was assuming Harley might beat her back home but she ended up working till later in the day.

Mental Health Stigma

She’s one of those people who tries to not always think mental health is an issue.
She doesn’t want that to be a stigma that she will have mental health problems because of this.
Detective knows it can be a sensitive subject and she wants to apologize for having to get into the specifics because it can be uncomfortable.
Detective asks if that makes sense, asks if she’s okay. She is silent with her head down for a while. “Do I have to talk about that?”
Her voice breaks “I don’t want to be dreaming of it anymore”. “In my mind I keep saying that, I’m trying to block everything out; if you would just ask and I can say yes or not, I just don’t wanna be really specific.”
(She is rambling so much even when asked direct questions).

Coming Home, Monday

Detective asked what the first thing she saw when she walked inside was. She is saying her mentality is to let the dogs out and now talking about motion sensors.
She thinks some of the sensors weren’t working because she had towels on them from the night before.
She remembers it was normal, she was excited they got new clothes for the pets. They come in the door yadda yadda yadda, the day is halfway through. My brain didn’t say hey you need to go check the money.
I wanted to work out, I wanted to listen to music and relax; in Lorson Ranch most everyone has - you know you can have Amazon delivered inside the door.
Loud noises from downstairs echo through the vents so even with noise canceling headphones sometimes she can hear something.
The storage room is below the master bedroom.
She wishes she could give them the information from the motion sensors, she doesn’t remember where she was when she heard something.
She keeps saying “remember I told you earlier”.

An Attack

When you walk down the stairs, Gannon is to the right. The man was in the storage room; the door was semi-cracked. He may have been looking out like peeking out and so she noticed that someone was right there.
Immediately it was just, there was no… when someone’s in your home they’re not there to talk to you, it was immediate from then on. Gannon came in and tried to get on him and blah blah blah.
She noticed a cabinet was open but she didn’t realize why until later. When he saw her she doesn’t know if the intention was for them to come in that soon or what his intentions were because she didn’t think the intentions were to take anything for them because he already had on gloves and had obtained a gun from their home and immediately it was in attack mode.
She did go in the cabinet because she takes Lorazepam for anxiety and she was already “super anxiety” from having this all going on so she took two yadda yadda yadda. It was in a bedroom cabinet an armoire - or maybe in the kitchen cabinet ? - the kitchen cabinet is where the Lorazepam was and her shades and the glasses were in the bedroom armoire. She keeps a folder with her passport documents in it.
The Lorazepam is prescribed to her. She had already taken one that morning. It was a lot, well not a lot, she doesn’t take any if she’s not having anxiety so it was more than usual.
He used their black gun; an automatic; a .38 or a .9mm. They have a big AR-style one Al has, a shot gun, two 380s, maybe; Letecia’s gun is teal colored.
Letecia asks if it’s too late to check her body. Detective says “no, it’s not, actually”.
Detective explains what would happen; she would go to the hospital etc.
It’s hard for her to give specifics because she was doing several things at the same time and she was being violated physically. She remembers her clothes being taken off. She would tell that to a nurse, maybe, it’s hard.
When he pushed her into the room she remembers a battle process back and forth.
He wasn’t much bigger than her. After she hit her head the first time it started to be a little blurry.
The first time she thinks she hit her head was the red and blue table in Gannon’s room, she remembers “going back and hitting her head”.
She says she had the ability to push back because he wasn’t overpowering her. She remembers the times she hit her head. There were a few times she was out of it and she had taken more Lorazepam than usual.
It was almost like she was blacked out. She could kind of hear was was going on but didn’t know what going on.
She doesn’t remember feeling pain in her female parts. The pain was the struggle of her body being tired; your brain is telling you don’t give in but your body is in a tired mode.
Detectives asks her if intruder penetrated her.
She is silent and looks down for a while.
She remembers her clothes coming off, not the top part, she doesn’t remember if it was the first or second time.
She remembers her clothes coming off on the bottom and her having her top on.
She was pushing back and then she was out of her mind and almost like a blur because she hit her head again.
She is crying and the audio is unintelligible at points.
Detective says she’s not gonna run and tell Al or Landen about what she says.
She feels like she gave in even though she didn’t agree to it (the sexual assault).
Detective asks if he “completed it”.
She says she was able to have that bolt of energy to get up again but she doesn’t know if he completed and she doesn’t want to think about that, that’s disgusting.
Detective says she’s not asking if he ejaculated, she’s asking if he penetrated her; she says yes.
She doesn’t remember what part of her body was being pushed down.
She doesn’t want to give them wrong information step by step about her body being violated.
She doesn’t think that’s fair; every time she keeps saying this happened she has to say it again.
She was not penetrated anywhere else.
It hadn’t ended.
Gannon came in to jump on him and help her out. She doesn’t remember anything but laying back and she could hear that Gannon had come in and that he knew this is not what you’re supposed to do.
Gannon was aware someone was trying to harm her even if he didn’t understand exactly what they were trying to do.
Their home is very open they talk about not having a girlfriend and not doing this until you’re married so he’s very aware that that’s not how things happened.
She remembers that Gannon was, not thrown, but he can’t jump on a big guy. That’s a big guy to him - 5’6, 7, 8 ish - she remembers Gannon tried to jump on him and then was over here.
He had the gun to Gannon afterwards. He had the gun and had Gannon. She tries to use a pillow to show how the man was holding Gannon but ends up not really showing anything.
She had every opportunity to run for help and she’s not a good enough shooter to go and shoot someone.
Her mind wasn’t thinking that of trying to create harm if she made a dumb decision.
She should have done some sneaky technique or gave Laina a letter.
Gannon was yelling her name directed specifically at her.
He calls her Tecia (teshuh).
She doesn’t remember the man saying anything; hitting her head made her dizzy.
Detective asks what kind of noises she heard. Letecia is silent but detective says she can’t guess. Letecia says “pleasure noises”.
He was still inside of her kind of and had to put more force on her body and that’s when she started to cry and felt like she was giving up.
Gannon was hollering “help” at some point.

A Second Attack

She doesn’t remember anything else. The second time in the battle he was saying “get off of her”.
It’s a blur because you’re so disappointed in your emotional self-worth and how you feel about yourself; you feel like you’re nothing.
Detectives brings up smells. She could smell a strong paint or drywall odor; a work smell.
Harley’s dad did drywall a while ago, things in their home would smell sometimes from being around the worksites, it’s more of like a sandpaper-ish smell.
She remembers smelling alcohol, not a deep strong alcohol smell, but a sense of alcohol like a breath of it, an aroma, kind of like a (?) type smell at one point like when you walk into a restaurant and smell fresh tomatoes.
A few days before this she was having lower back pains so she knew there were nerves being shifted in some direction during the attack.
A Ring notification triggered him grabbing Gannon(I think). There were two - the first one there was no one there; the second time it was Laina. You can hear from the house when the bus hits its brakes and the timing was normal, she knew it would be Laina.
Letecia let Laina in and had a normal conversation with her before sending her to go get the mail. She felt like she had to do a 30 second or 1 minute dialog before. She knew she would need a snack at some point so she was worried about getting her out and about. “I’m sorry, I should have given her a note”.
She doesn’t remember being hit anywhere other than her head.
She doesn’t have any specific injuries. It was mostly her head and the nerves in her spine.
She says something on her hand was bleeding and she had a burn mark and her nails are like that because when she gets nervous.
After she tells Laina to go, she goes downstairs and he still has Gannon.
He was demanding different things like she didn’t say anything. There would be consequences (she doesn’t remember what he said). She knew not to tell Laina because he had a gun with Gannon.
She was pleading or asking. Gannon was saying help. Somehow they ended up in a commotion. That’s the second time he was attempting to try. She completely blacked out and doesn’t remember He was demanding different things and she gave him a brown suitcase and a box.
She says they have like 10 suitcases. The one she gave him was like 27 inches maybe. It was a checked bag not a carry-on. She thought he was gonna rob them with it.
She doesn’t know what he did with the suitcase. She provided what he demanded and they got into it again. He wasn’t able to penetrate her the second time because she had put her pants back up to talk to Laina which was an awful feeling.
Harley calls or texts, Letecia texts her.
The box she gave him was an empty brown cardboard shipping box. If he wanted to get it himself he would have needed to let Gannon go. The box was in the storage room where the suitcase was.
He couldn’t get her pants back off because she was, she said lackadaisical, and then she hit her head and then everything was a blur.
Detective asks how this ended. She was out of it but she could hear loud banging but she doesn’t remember and couldn’t see what was going on or anything like that. She could hear a little bit of a struggle but didn’t know what was going on.
She keeps hoping she will dream of what happened or remember later.

After the Attacks

The first thing she remembers after the second attack is being like “where’s Gannon?” and freaking out because she couldn’t find him but she thought he was hiding.
Once she knew he wasn’t hiding she went into the mode of “I can fix this”. She was assuming he wasn’t hiding after he was calling to him and saying he could come out.
Gannon has never hid in the house.
His personality is different when he does and doesn’t take his medicine.
When he doesn’t take his meds he has a lot of energy and has trouble focusing. That’s how he was on Sunday when his stomach wasn’t(?) hurting.
She didn’t know at first it was their gun until later.
They put everything back in the position it was; he did not take the gun.
The gun was upstairs where she left it; that’s why she realized it was theirs(?).
She found the gun where the carpet was left, like he had dropped it.
The carpet was leaned over but had fallen over in the storage area.
After the attacks, she put the room back together. She had already straightened his room up before from when he burned himself.
Gannon was bleeding but probably from his arm. He did have blood at some point.
Somehow, she was holding him when she was being attacked(?) like he had landed on her.
It might’ve been 15 or 20 minutes.
Harley got off at 4:30. It might have been been a little bit longer that she was out of it; that’s the timeframe.

Guns

The guns are usually in the shelf or in the closet.
The other guns weren’t taken. The handguns are usually in different sections which would be accessible in case of emergency. The black handgun was already in its place. The teal handgun she means.
Al took all the guns. He said he didn’t want her to harm herself. That was the same day of the interview.
She says she has no history of harming herself. She says he tried to say something like she would grab a knife and that’s not true, she’s never done that, she’s never been to any kind of counseling for anything like that. “There would be no reason - there we go that mental health thing, I’ve always tried to put a blocker up because I know things like that can cause problems.”
She said something about being from the country…. “But nothing like ‘I’m gonna cut myself or I’m gonna harm myself’. He’s in his military protection mode and wanted to take everything away”.

More Clarification

She thinks she might have gone to Dunkin Donuts, not Starbucks.
It had to be 4, or 4:15, no later than 4:45 because Harley would have been already on her way home.
Then I sent Harley and Laina to the Dollar Tree.
They have an ADT alarm system.

End of Interview

Detective wants to take a break. Letecia says she hasn’t showered or eaten.
Detective mentions collecting evidence from her body.
Letecia: I would do anything for you to figure out who Eguardo is and make sure that I can just like -
She says she was wearing a set of clothing she had already washed. She doesn’t remember but it was athletic pants.
Letecia did not give him the alarm code, only the garage code. You don’t need the alarm code to get in. She doesn’t remember if she even set the alarm.
Letecia asks if she can leave. They say they’d like to get her to the hospital.
She says she would totally do that but she’d like to get home and take a minute and eat something and not be looked at differently because of who she shows up with.
She says she wants it to be secret.
When authorities take someone for the test they are in plainclothes and use the back door. They don’t walk in with a scarlet letter.
She wants to go; she’s hungry, thirsty, her lips are chapped.
She is very hesitant to stay there and asks if she can call her later.
She says she needs to maintain her mental state, her lips are burning, she wants to take a shower, and to look at her fingers.
Detective says it would be better if she got the test before she showered.
She doesn’t want to go there dirty and smelly.
She wants to drive herself and not be escorted after already being violated.
Bethel comes back in and Letecia says something about the hospital.
Bethel asks if she is okay and why she needs to go to the hospital.
Letecia starts telling her she was sexually assaulted on Monday.
Detectives are stalling, Letecia wants to be escorted.
Letecia says she just wants to take a break, she wants to see her child and get lunch with her.
As she walks out of the interview room a male is also talking in the hallway.
She took her cup and coke can with her, refused to give them to detectives.
A male detective is in the interview room, explaining what has just happened in the hallway.
He took her cell phone because they are applying for a search warrant. She asks how they can take her phone before they have a warrant and says it’s unconstitutional. He says she can bring that up later. She keeps saying she wants directions and her family numbers.
She is being detained for false reporting until they get a search warrant.
She is put back in the room.
She says she would have given them the phone but they snatched it which was disrespectful.
She doesn’t like being shut in a room.
She is upset she can’t use the restroom alone; “you want to watch it?”
She asks for a colder drink and a hot bagel. They take her drink; she asks to make a phone call.
She says he’s not stupid and is very educated.
She tries to get them to restart the interview but she had asked if she needed an attorney in the hallway.