Exhibit 38

This is an audio exhibit of a call between Al and Letecia Stauch beginning at 12:17 PM on February 14, 2020.

Loose Transcript/Narrative of Call

Letecia says she asked them to get the footage outside of PetCo, not inside. When she was pulling off to go to Palmer Lake to look at the bike, someone was laying down in the road and when she turned around the guy got in the truck with them. Gannon was crying in the backseat and was so upset he threw up.
The man was in the car with them the entire ride back and got out of the truck with them at the house, she is talking about the surveillance footage of them getting out.
Letecia says there was a struggle but she said he could take anything they wanted. The man started asking about Uncle Matt and she was freaked out because he had a gun when the police came and she didn't know where Gannon was.
"What if I leave to go get help and he's in here?"
Letecia says her hands were tied to a board while the girls were in the bedroom sleeping. All she could hear was Gannon screaming.
Al asks why she would need immunity when the man was the perpetrator not her. "’cause I didn't tell them! I don't know how bad he hurt Gannon!"
"He was Mexican or mixed with black, dark, 5’7" she says.
Al says the truck doors would be locked when she's driving and he is getting more frustrated. He wants to know why she panicked, she needs immunity.
She said she left her phone on the counter at PetCo and then says that Gannon's phone was left at PetCo.

Transcriber’s note: There was speculation on r/GannonStauch that she left something at PetCo maybe hidden behind other stuff.

Transcriber’s note: (maybe it's a video call or maybe it is just her attitude/inflection).

She is yelling at him and saying he doesn't care about stuff. He says he cares about her and their relationship. He says he blames the people pressuring her for the different stories for forcing her to say something.
He says "if you have any faith or respect in me" the truth is easier.
Al asks "who tied you up? who hurt Gannon? Who wants the money? who hurt you? Who is he? Who are they?"
Letecia says they're gonna kill her. She is crying and says "Quincy Brown".
Al repeats: "Quincy Brown. Hmm. So Quincy Brown is the one who has him?”
Letecia is just sobbing audibly. Al asks what he was driving while he was following her.
She says it was a red car.
Al says he said his name was Eguardo but she found out his name was Quincy Brown. He asks how bad Gannon was hurt and how he hurt Gannon.

There was a name "Quincy Brown" on an ID while he was moving boxes which she thought he was going to use to rob them.
He had baggy pants and something in his pocket said his name and had his picture.
He tied Letecia up in the storage room after the police left, that night and he was still in the house.
There is more yelling and crying, it’s unintelligible.
Al is angry at her, giving ridiculous versions back to her: "Gannon was high fiving the guy". You can just hear his desperation.
Letecia yells "I have my life on the line". "Go get your fucking immunity" and "I want my son back" Al says.
Al asks at what point she called the police with the man in the house.
They are yelling back and forth at each other. She says he's being a smart ass, he says he is because it's BS.
She is mostly unintelligible but she's still talking about immunity.
Al says "I know enough about immunity to know you're not gonna get it if you keep lying about this Quincy guy. There's no Quincy Brown, there's no Eguardo, there's no uncle Matt". She says whatever.
"You want us to be a family and be all intimate and blah blah blah blah blah but you keep fucking lying to me. Five years of lying and now my son's gone. Where is Gannon?" "WITH QUINCY!"
Al says "a 5 foot 7 Mexican guy that changed his name to Quincy Brown that works for the home developer, yeah I’ll tell them all that".

Al Stauch, Testimony About Exhibit 38

Al doesn't recall any vomit or smell in his truck when he got back from Oklahoma.
That phone call was the first time Al had heard of "Quincy Brown"; he doesn't know anyone by that name.
She had just one personality, her normal one, during that call.